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Lila Vita's avatar

Such clarity here, Robert! A wonderful essay

As you say:

"When the impression of a watcher behind experience is taken literally and metaphysics rushes in to explain it, attention is pulled away from what is actual and re-directed toward an abstract picture of how things are. Experience becomes secondary to explanation."

And therefore:

"When attention settles back into ordinary experience without trying to improve it, something lively resumes on its own. Curiosity returns. Interest broadens. The world regains texture. Not because some higher ground has been reached, but because experience is no longer filtered through the demand that it justify itself or lead somewhere else."

Really good!

The open-ended fact of actual present experience, and the knowing of it, is its own meaning.

Joan Tollifson's avatar

Beautiful!

Stephen Grundy's avatar

Surgical in its clear expression. Zen without the fluff. Another bullseye, in my view Robert...🈚️🫶

Marilyn Peterlin's avatar

Stephen, love the way you describe Robert's writing.

Stephen Grundy's avatar

Thank you 🈚️🫶

Samantha Morgan's avatar

I've really being feeling the anti-climaticness of life lately and I am both enjoying and wrestling with it. :)

The Seeking Game's avatar

Yes! Quite the wrestling match 😉

Samantha Morgan's avatar

With no winners 😂

AEONKNOT's avatar

I understand the feeling

Stef's avatar

Beautiful, Robert! Crystal clarity.....and it’s gone.🙏

Robert Saltzman's avatar

Saludos, Stef.

Rupert Peene's avatar

Not wanting to say too much, i'll just point out these few sentences from the essay:

"Experience becomes secondary to explanation."

"When attention settles back into ordinary experience without trying to improve it, something lively resumes on its own. Curiosity returns. Interest broadens."

Tina_4Love's avatar

The natural world and observing animals in their habitat has allowed stillness and direct contact with what is. Thank you Robert.

Marilyn Peterlin's avatar

Yes! Is there any other way?

AEONKNOT's avatar

Isn't it wild how many people have surfaced in recent years with firm belief that there is some description of reality that can be known?

gyana mudra's avatar

Chasing the mirage

The Seeking Game's avatar

Illusions, assumptions, beliefs…oh my!

Stan Cross's avatar

What is your favorite music genre, Robert?

Robert Saltzman's avatar

I don't have one. I like many kinds of music. Why do you ask?

Stan Cross's avatar

Just curious to know more about you beyond what you write. You've been a major influence in my life.

Robert Saltzman's avatar

Eric Dolphy, Thelonious Monk, Dexter Gordon

Bob Dylan, Jimmy Webb, John Prine

Billie Holiday, Ray Charles, Diana Krall

Pink Floyd, Rolling Stones, Fleetwood Mac

Willie Nelson, Patsy Kline, Hank Williams

Chopin, Mozart, Arvo Part

etc.

Stan Cross's avatar

Love getting to know you a little better. I find, in this moment, a desire to know your intuitive side, your heart side, the side of you that is about relationships. I wonder if that is where connection, relationship, and love resides... in our deep wordless sense of life and of each other. In the side of us that knows we really don't know. In the side of us where we realize awakening never ends. In the side of us that lets the mystery be.

Stan Cross's avatar

Love it! Many overlaps with me. I am the same... very eclectic. Thanks for relating this... helps me know you a little better.

Lucas Easton's avatar

What stands out to me here is your phrase, “metaphysics rushes in to explain it.” That feels like the hinge.

The recursive loop you describe — noticing, then noticing the one who notices — seems to generate a structural ambiguity. The system produces a model of itself, and that model feels agentive. Once that impression stabilizes, explanation becomes almost inevitable. Not because anyone is foolish, but because the organism prefers coherence.

From there, metaphysics isn’t a mistake so much as a secondary stabilization attempt. The system tries to account for its own recursion by positing something outside the loop — pure awareness, ultimate consciousness, a witness, a ground. Endless options.

In that sense, the “escape fantasy” you mention isn’t just psychological longing. It’s structural. The loop produces the impression of a center, and the center generates explanatory extensions.

I’ve been exploring something similar through a lens that looks specifically at how these stabilizing moves occur — how sensation, affect, memory, and language converge into a self-model, and how that model then protects itself through abstraction. Not to replace metaphysics with counter-metaphysics, but to track how the move happens. It is extremely interesting, and once seen, it cannot be unseen.

What I appreciate in your writing is that you don’t dramatize the dissolution. You treat it as a local correction rather than a cosmic revelation. That feels honest.