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Stef's avatar

Just beautiful, Robert!

Find your own mind!

Stand in your own shoes.

Embrace your own craziness...

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I love that your questioner reveals their desire to be loved by daddy.

I see the whole wise guru on the chair the same desire.

So bored with the cultic/business nonsense that is the “spiritual marketplace”.

“I was on Level 1.3 but now I am on level 1.6”

Great that you reference Roger Waters’ (Pink Floyd) lyrics. IMO One of the coolest lyricists of our time.

“All you touch and all you see is all your life will ever be..”

I think you might have enjoyed est, which was a somewhat controversial’enlightenment’ workshop created by Werner Erhard, who was IMO an interesting dude; studied Gurdjieff etc. I did the workshop many years ago in Bombay (primarily because it cost £25 there instead of £350 in the UK) I was at the time involved 3 months of intense “spiritual” practice in a nearby ashram; a type of self-hypnosis that put a lot of oxygen through the body (5 hours of chanting per day) and definitely in my case quietened the yama yama of conventional mind.

I had had some wonderful peak experiences; seeing clearly that there is only always one event that includes the figure and the ground. Experiencer and experience are one event. Nobody inside “having an experience” There is only ever this interpretation here and nothing possibly to be understood or gained.

The person leading the workshop was called a “trainer” and, over very long weekend sessions, the group and individual processes revealed how our minds and emotions are totally mechanical. Like mice in a maze, we are always seeking the tunnel where the cheese will be. Unlike mice, who stop going down the tunnel when there’s no cheese there anymore, we can spend a lifetime going down the same tunnel.

There happened to be a very famous Indian movie star among the 350 attendees and every time she stood up to share, there would be a ripple as the Indians recognized her. I had no idea who she was and every time she started telling her tale of woe (alcoholic abusive father etc.) the trainer would tell her to sit down. It was hilarious. She finally got it and got off her diva role..

After many, many hours of considerations and participatory processes revealing layer upon layer of the mechanical nature of our programming, the great revelation finally occurred, The trainer, like Toto in Oz, “pulled back the curtains” and announced, “you get what you get”. Period.

“ Hello.... helllo...hello... is there anybody out there?”

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Nicole's avatar

You say you are not a teacher, Robert, but I think you are the best teacher because you tell the truth.

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