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The questioner is not "done," they are (potentially) awake. But there's something about "awake" that is overlooked way too often for my taste. The point of waking up is to BEGIN to live an intelligent, creative, full life. It doesn't happen until one wakes up, because before one wakes up, one believes a total lie and acts based on that fantasy.

This is akin to the difference between "self realization" and "self actualization." Self realization meaning awake, and self actualization meaning reaping the benefits of that. If there's no benefit, who cares if one is awake or not? It would not matter.

It doesn't matter ultimately, but the point is, it matters to the one who is awake (or not). Getting out of bed in the morning, enjoying being safe and just fine, eating, listening to music, brushing my teeth: in other words CARING what happens, is just part of "what is." Not happily living after finding "awakeness" is not being awake, it's hiding inside an idea that one is awake.

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To me, "There’s nothing to become. This is it." is a statement dripping with "knowing" though. It's a conclusion. To me it's just a belief spoken in opposition to another belief.

If we REALLY want to embrace not-knowing, then we have to also discard firm beliefs and conclusions like "There’s nothing to become. This is it."

I'm not saying that there is (or isn't) something to become, but certainty is suspect, regardless of what one is certain of. Voltaire went as far as calling certainty is absurd.

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Mar 13·edited Mar 13Author

No, it is not a conclusion. It is a confession of my own experience. When asked what I saw in some words, I said what I saw in them. As I have said hundreds or thousands of times, including in both of my books, I can speak only for myself.

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Thanks, but that doesn't make any sense.

How can you 'confess' that "There’s nothing to become. This is it." (without knowing for a fact that that's true?)

You would have to "know" this to confess it.

Could you say "to be truthful, I actually don't, and can't know if there's anything to become"?

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No, I would not say that. I say that each moment is what it is and cannot become anything.

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Thanks, I'm not at all speaking about moments, but whether or not we can or cannot know that there is anything we can become.

I don't see how anyone could conclude that they 'know' first hand that "There's nothing to become" How could they possibly they know such a thing?

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That depends entirely on what you mean by "know." I refer you to David Hume's Critique of Pure Reason.

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Where can I see the Asana of Unknowing? What is a timeline?

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Where can I see the Assana of Not Knowing?

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Bingo! I loved this.

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Love this, Robert! So simple, yet profound. BTW, I'm astonished by your innate ability to make a beat up old cement mixer look glorious...

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Needless to say that was a general comment, the questioner may very well be "done" in the very best of ways :-)

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