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Joan Tollifson's avatar

I've always loved this poem. ❤️

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Robert Saltzman's avatar

Me, too.

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Noel Dunivant's avatar

I've always been intrigued by "Now I’ll count up to twelve and you keep quiet and I will go." To me, deep profundity, mystery and emotional resonance emanate from these 14 words. My mind wonders:

Why 12 and not 10? Perhaps 12 evokes the completion of cycles (12 months, 12 hours of day and night, 12 signs of Zodiac) or order/wisdom/justice (12 disciples, 12 imams, 12-person juries, 12 tablets of Roman Law).

Why does he go? Perhaps by departing, he empowers others to engage with the silence and stillness independently, no longer relying on his guidance. Or, perhaps a metaphor for death and impermanence of life, or an act of humility and (Buddhist) detachment.

To me, it encapsulates the meaning and feeling of the poem. It conjures non-attachment, impermanence, mortality, cyclicality/regeneration, the teacher/guide fulfilling his/her mission and moving on after contributing to the student's embrace of stillness and silence, and the realizations which they yield.

Of course, Neruda's 14 words convey much, much more than those I just wrote. And, more concisely and beautifully than those of which I'm capable.

Thank you, Robert, for translating and sharing.

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Roque's avatar

¡Qué fotaza!!, me encanta. Me sorprendió este poema de Neruda, no lo conocía, y me gusta. No es habitual en él este estilo.

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Sharon Hanna's avatar

Love you both Robert and Joan. ❤️❤️❤️❤️

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Sergej's avatar

Beautiful poem, thank you for sharing it. This part felt particularly personally relevant:

"If we were not so single-minded

about keeping our lives moving,

and for once could do nothing,

perhaps a huge silence

could interrupt this sadness

of never understanding ourselves

and of threatening ourselves with death."

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Robert Saltzman's avatar

Probably relevant to most of us, Sergej.

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Tina_4Love's avatar

There is a stillness in reading this poem. Thank you for sharing Robert 🙌

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Regina Kelly's avatar

Thanks. We shall see. It was in with a rather strange Gersh.

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Regina Kelly's avatar

Do you think we should get it appraised?

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Robert Saltzman's avatar

It could be worth something to a collector. I don't know about the market for Walter's work.

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Regina Kelly's avatar

Nah, neither do I. Thanks.

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Karen's avatar

I love this. Thank you. 🕊️

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Regina Kelly's avatar

27 December 2024

Love this poem, makes me cry, his ideas so good, his words so soft.

Bob,

Larry & I have 2 sons, Sam, Ft Collins, CO & Jack LIVES in Inwood, (got married this morning at NYCCity Hall — a surprise as I am in Colorado. I am on an iPad & never used one,forgive egregious errors.

We are going through Larry’s material life and found art, including a photo by Walter Chappell called “Metaflora”. I am locked out of Facebook until I get home from Colorado.

May I email the image to you? — reginekelly(at)gmail(dot)com

Pax, regine

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Robert Saltzman's avatar

I have a print of that one, Regina. Thanks for thinking of me.

And yes, this poem is incredibly moving to me too.

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Regina Kelly's avatar

I read your translation at dinner tonight.

I was asked to read it twice.

Beautiful. ☮️

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