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Becky's avatar

As we all experience the world through our senses, proving anything truly objective is impossible. It's like belief in the existence of nothing. If nothing existed, it would cease to be nothing. Maybe that's what happened at the big bang, maybe not. I don't know. It's fun to try to know though.

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Michael T King's avatar

Hello Robert,

I also used to wrestle with anthropocentrism.

My current understanding is this…

The moon exists, I exist, everyone and everything exists or is.

The current scientific hypothesis concerning the origin of the Universe are:

Superstring or m theory

Quantum field

Big bang

From a spiritual side:

God

Infinite being or consciousness

So, everything and everyone shares this one reality, whatever it is.

That for me is the essence of non-duality,

And on a pure practical level, compassion is better then conflict love is better then hate.

I do not know anything, so I just do my best to be a kinder person and each and every day to fall more in love with the mystery of the unknown.

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Robert Saltzman's avatar

Well, although I appreciate your conclusion, I don't think it's that simple. A scientific hypothesis is not equivalent to a religious dogma. One is a form of not-knowing, but the other is an unsubstantiated claim that resists investigation--so-called "faith," which I consider nonsense. I push back against "nonduality" because for many people who use that term, it is more dogma than open-eyed investigation.

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Name?'s avatar

I agree. something about advita seems a little fishy to me.There is alot of interconnectedness going on in the world that I don’t experience personally, but it is going on nevertheless. Robert, can you offer a personal interpretation of Krishnamurti’s statement “ The observer and the observed are one”? That one always give me a brain twist.

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Robert Saltzman's avatar

I have written about that often and don't want to repeat it all here. Have a look at my books which go into this in depth.

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